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John Perna and the Ad Hominem
NEWS FLASH: NEW RECORD HOLDER IN AD HOMINEMS
 | See how jews divide and conquor. |
| 104 ad hominems
and 9 blasphemies. |
| How the Talmud distorts
clear thinking. |
| How jews use the term "nazi" and then deny they use it. |
| What Jesus Christ had to say about jews. |
| What Thomas Jefferson had to say about jews. |
| congenitally lying Bolshevik schidzoid
khazar mamzer |
| Mud Mechelen
is a "partial Christian". |
NEWS FLASH: Bill Cervantes and Super Kike Jan Diechmohle are one and the
same. The score is now:
104 Ad Hominems.
9 Blasphemies
NEWS FLASH: December 21, 2000--new arrival, 35 brand new, fresh,
never used before ad hominems!!!
From: "John Perna" <johnperna@compuzone.net>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:56 AM
Still more Ad Hominem in the place of logical arguements
Have you given up on presenting facts?
- "Ad Hominem" means "against the man"
The one who is unable to refute the
message, with facts, attacks the messenger instead. This is act a
desperation that is meant to be face saving. In reality it is an admission
of a defeat in the philosophical exchange.
This is usually good advice. And like most free advice, the
person who gives the advice is usually the one who would be the biggest beneficiary of his
own advice, as the following posts demonstrates with a record 47 ad hominems which are
conveniently numbered below:
From: John Perna
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:33 AM
You revise every historical fact to make it match your predetermined conlcusion.
You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew.
Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a Non-Jew.
1) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you
are saying.
2) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose
from a funny farm..
3) How did you get like that?
From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:37 AM
Subject: [The Grip] Re: [repeal19th] The Unnatural Death of a Natural Right... Reason
itself!
4) Rolling on the floor and laughing my a**
off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5) Are you ACTUALLY trying to convince people that Mao Tse Tung was
a Jew?????
I think that one tops the claim that no one, who is mentioned in the Bible, is a Jew.
6) Do you actually BELIEVE that?
7) Or did you make a bet that you could convince someone of it?
8) Is someone paying you to do this?
9) Is it impossible to admit that there are good people and bad people from among every
ethnic group?
From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:21 PM
We do not say that Christ was the King of the Jews. The Bible does.
10) I am starting to realize that it is pointless to try to reason
with you.
Anyone who says the Jesus, and the disciples. were not Jews, but that Mao Tse Dung WAS
a Jew, is clearly (11) not playing with a full deck
You revise every historical fact to make it match (12) your
predetermined
conlcusion.
You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew.
Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a
Non-Jew.
13) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that you
are saying.
14) Is someone paying you to do this?
15) Are you trying to win a bet?
16) Do you "get off" on convincing people to believe UTTER NONSENSE?
17) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a
funny farm..
18) How did you get like that?
From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:40 PM
19) There is definately a screw loose somewhere.
The inscriptions say that Christ was King of the Jews, and there are hundreds of other
verses that refer to Christ as a Jew
20) BUT that does not fit your predetermined conclusion; so
you cannot see it, even when you post it yourself
21) GET HELP. The verses are posted at the end of this
message.
22) DO NOT TRY TO TWIST THE BIBLE.
23) God will punish you.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all wrote down what they saw.
Their accounts are INCREDIBLY similar.
There is certainly no SIGNIFICANT difference in their accounts.
There is certainly no disagreement about the RELEVANT point: that Jesus was crucified as
the King of the Jews.
No one can argue against the Christian Bible, and still claim to be a Christian.
The "last supper" was a passover feast, celebrated by NO ONE ELSE BUT JEWS.
The Romans took Jesus during Passover specifically BECAUSE He was a Jew.
From: "John Perna" <johnperna@compuzone.net>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:50 PM
24) > I am not going to keep posting the same things over and
over.
> The Bible says the Jesus was a Jew in a few hundred different places.
> THE Verses are below.
25) > CASE CLOSED.
From: John Perna
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:57 PM
The Bible says that the Messiah would be of the House of David.
Are you saying the Jesus is not the Messiah?
Are you saying the He is a liar?
26) If I hear anymore of this nonsense I will stop participating.
From: John Perna
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:53 AM
27) I am starting to realize that it is pointless to try to reason
with you.
Anyone who says that Jesus, and the disciples. were not Jews, but that Mao Tse Dung WAS
a Jew, is (28) clearly not playing with a full deck
29) You revise every historical fact to make it match your
predetermined
conlcusion.
You turn everyone, that is bad, into a Jew.
Then you turn every Jew that the Bible clearly shows as good, into a
Non-Jew.
30) I cannot imagine that you actually believe the things that
you are saying.
31) Is someone paying you to do this?
32) Are you trying to win a bet?
34) Do you "get off" on convincing people to believe UTTER NONSENSE?
35) It is as if you just dropped in from another planet, or got loose from a
funny farm..
36) How did you get like that?
37) I cannot imagine how you can think that portraying this whole
thing as a
Jewish Conspiracy is anything except an over simplification. I am not
denying that
the conspiracy has plenty of Atheists who are descendants of Abraham. The
BIBLE BELIEVING
Jew is more likely to be their victims than you are. (38) Portraying
this whole thing
as a Jewish Conspiracy is an error that shifts blame away from MANY people who are
guilty, and shifts blame toward MANY other people, who are as patriotic as
you.
39) If you are a Christian, your God is a Jew. Learn to deal with
that!
40) At the same time, I cannot comprehend how anyone could look
at
murderers, like Yasser Arafat and Quaddaffi as any kind of a force for good.
41) I do not expect that any of this will make any difference to
you. The
problem is, that in order to have credibility you have to be CONSISTENTLY right. (42) Slanting
everything so that it always comes up Jewish, just discredits the rest of your
information. (43) If there is one fly's turd in the sugar bowl
most people will
throw out the whole bowl of
sugar. Then there are a few people who have developed an appetite for that
sort of thing.
44) I am going to get back to the job of opposing totalitarianism
now.
From: "John Perna" <johnperna@compuzone.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:58 PM
45) Utter RUBBISH! It is against to Jewish religion to
consume blood of ANY kind. (IT IS NOT "KOSHER") The book of Leviticus is where
these laws are found
From: John Perna
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:29 AM
46) I do not think that I will be sending money to Willie
From: John Perna
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:20 PM
47) Yes there are phonies who try to turn Jesus's message of love
into hatred.
October 15, 2000--John Perna Defends His Ad Hominems
Number 48 added October 30, 2000
From: John Perna
To: LIFE-GAZETTE@egroups.com ; Edwin C. Hamada, Esq ; Linda M. Woolf, Ph.D. ; cinds cinds
; The Grip (E) ; repeal19th@egroups.com ; KORESHX98@egroups.com ; demand@egroups.com ;
ChristianPatriot ; Christian Nationalist ; theseries ; SonsofLiberty@egroups.com
Cc: bcpolitics@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:29 AM
Subject: [repeal19th] Thugs
"Edwin C. Hamada, Esq" <EHamada@HamadaLaw.COM>; you have hit the nail
on the
head.
Having never been in prison, I have never been face to face with the thugs
that run the Aryan Hate Groups.
What is happening to internet egroups was well described, on one of those
groups, in these words:
"Its like throwing a party and
seeing 1 or 2 thugs come in and start causing trouble.
Do you throw them out (censor them) or let them stay
and watch all your friends leave? I refuse to belong
to any list which is dominated by 1 or 2 'thugs' who
disrupt every 'on-topic' post that comes along. What
incentive is their to stay? Opening my email in the
morning and seeing about 20-"Jews suck" in the subject
headers and nothing else is unacceptable. There's no
more sane dialogue. This is where the list has become
dominated by the 2 thugs that were allowed to stay.
And you are totally right, they do have a right to
voice their opinions....but not in my house they
don't. Get my point? I'll just go find another list -
one that will survive. "
Bill Cervantes ups the ante on ad hominems on November 21, 1000
| You have *no argument*! |
| your PAGAN ANTI-Christian hate group! |
| all you can do is to resort to ad hominems, lies, distortions and insults. |
| discredited himself. |
| you didn't respond |
| calling every opponent a "Jew" |
| your hate group |
| You've discredited yourself! |
| Ostracize the hate mongers! |
| The hate mongers are bashing the ethnic of Jesus Christ |
| The hate mongers are bashing the ethnic of most or all of Jesus' disciples |
| The hate mongers insult Christianity and Christians with their bashing. |
| You're no Christians! |
| Anti-Christian hate-mongers you are! |
| Pagans of a satanic cult of hatred! |
| Even the women in front of svasticas on a picture posted to repeal19th on egroups
resulted in an approving eply. |
| Some of the gang are openly worshipping Odin |
| Anti-Christian ideology, even pagan worshippers. |
| They have *no argument* other than deception. |
| Have a look at the truth about the ANTI-Christian HATE MONGERS |
On the Fourth Day of Christmas, PermaLIAR brought to us:
thirty five new ad hominems, several blasphemies, alllllll bra.a.and new!!
3 turtle doves, ..., and a partridge in a pear tree.
- I certainly do not know it because you say it
- I have seen your steady flow of lies for a long time.
- Whe I read something from your the onlt thing that I believe is the
page numbers
- COMMUNIST agents, who pretend to be Christain patriots
- automatically labeling; as a Jew, everyone who opposes them
- a complete lack of regard for truth or accuracy
- This destroys their credibility
- demonstrating dishonesty
- or stupidity
- repeatedly making the same false statements
- anyone with the intelligence of a gnat can see that this is another
deception
- an ad hominem
- attempt to shift attention from the message, to the messenger
- agents of deception
- perfectly willing to discredit themselves
- making ridiculous statements
- beyond any belief
- just as Anti-semitic
- these hate mongers
- I will bet they would tell you that the Big Bad Wolf was a Jew too!
- Maybe they will even say that a Jew sank the Titanic
- IceBERG; anyone can tell that is a Jewish name
- CANNOT RESIST THE URGE TO CHANGE THE DEBATE FROM THE ISSUE TO THE
PERSON
- revisionism seems to be able to transform anyone into a Jew
- transform any Jew into a gentile
- there are two separate standards for determining who is and who is
Not a Jew
- One for people who are good: Never a Jew no matter what
- One for people who are bad: Always a Jew no matter
what
- agents of deception
- They do not even believe their own lies
- dedicated agents of deception
- who have an undisclosed agenda
- who it is that they work for
- Their agenda promotes class struggle
- and totalitarian government
- agreement with the Communist Manifesto
- unusually high prevalence of ties to the former Soviet Union
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